I got an email telling me that Javier Vazquez wanted to respond to some of the things that King of the Cage Promoter Terry Trebilcock had to say about him in his interview, conducted after the KOTC “Invasion” event in February. He wanted to set the record straight so when I returned his call, I was intrigued by what he had to say…

Javier: ~ “Picks up the phone”~ Yeah I would like to order some Sushi Please?

MMARR: He He...Who is this?

Javier: You called me ! What do you mean who is this!

MMARR: I didn’t know if it was you or Romie (Aram) or Maybe Johnny (Alessio). How is it going man?

Javier: It is going alright...

MMARR: How is your leg?

Javier: Well my leg is screwed up, but I am doing all right.

MMARR: What is going on with Terry?

Javier: I don’t fucking know dude…I don’t fucking know, some of the things that he said are not true.

MMARR: What is going on man?

Javier: I don’t know man, like the shit he said about Romie (Aram), like he let him go… Bullshit!!! Romie wouldn’t sign his contract! As far as me, I talked to him (Terry Trebilcock) on Sunday, and I had to call him because of the Insurance and everything, because he hasn’t called me at all. And I called him and he told me how close the fight was and all that Shit. Then I turned around and I talked to a friend on Monday and he is the one that brought up that interview!!! ( The interview they are talking about is the interview with King of the Cage Promoter Terry Treblecock If you haven’t seen it, click HERE…) I said “He said Fucking what?” I was like I don’t know man... he just wants to make it seem like Alberto Crane just killed me I guess... I don’t know dude, have you seen the fight?

MMARR: Yeah I saw the fight.

Javier: Was it as lopsided as he said?

MMARR: No man, did you read my interview yet?

Javier: Yeah I read it.

MMARR: Ok I will quote what he said (I quote from the Terry Trebilcock’s Interview )

“Terry Treblecock : I didn’t think it was close. I didn’t think the fight was close in any way, I thought maybe he won the last round, I thought he got totally dominated in the first round. What I saw was, two times he almost got knocked out by Crane standing with head kicks. He was rocked twice, he was in probably eight to ten deep submissions that he had to find a way out of. I didn’t see Javier with one submission or see him hurt Crane with anything. I don’t know what they saw him win the fight on, maybe just being Javier Vazquez.”

Javier: Yeah…What does that mean exactly?

MMARR: I don’t know.

Javier: Where did you see me stagger from these head kicks?

MMARR: You know what... I didn’t see any head kicks.... Nothing that hurt you anyways.

Javier: The first thing he threw was a head kick, I blocked it easily. Then I tried to counter it and that is when I fucked up my ACL. I have only seen the fight one time and I don’t remember, and I ruled it a draw.

MMARR: I thought it was pretty close to being a draw too, I saw you knee him in the head, I think you hurt him a little bit. I don’t know how hard that was, I mean you felt that better then I did. Was that a solid knee?

Javier: It was O.K, nothing major, nothing too major. I mean if you have seen the fight, I mean you see that it is just not an accurate portrayal of what happened. So that pissed me off and you know I don’t know man, like the things he said about my contract, when I signed my contract the only reason I signed a contract with them was because I was allowed to fight wherever I wanted.

MMARR: He told me that it was an exclusive, so it was not an exclusive contract (with the King of the Cage)?

Javier: Dude, I can pull out my contract, if it says “Exclusive” anywhere in there I will retract any statements I make. But I am telling you, it is NOT an Exclusive contract, ask my manager.

MMARR: In the interview that I did with Terry he says that He has an Exclusive he said the only reason you are allowed to fight in Miami…

Javier: I can fight wherever, whenever I want, the only time I can’t is if it was… let’s say I was scheduled to fight with King of the Cage, I can’t fight anywhere else 28 days prior to that. But as far as… I had a big debate about my contract recently, with a lot of things, (I said) I want a copy of my contract, I want a copy, and my manager says “I will pull it up”, and he pulled it up and he says “No” It is not an exclusive, you can go fight wherever you want, it does not say anywhere in there that it is an exclusive. Cause I was going to fight in the UCC (Universal Combat Challenge a Canadian event based in Montreal)

MMARR: You were going to fight in the UCC? Who were you going to fight in the UCC?

Javier: I was supposed to get the winner of (Jens) Pulver and (Duane) Ludwig.

MMARR: Are you serious?

Javier: Yeah that was the only reason I was there, I mean not only cornering for John (Alessio) but if Pulver won they were going to bring me in the ring and announce me as the number one contender.

Vazquez tending to teamate Thomas "The Wildman" Denny at UCC 12

MMARR: I had no Idea about that.

Javier: yeah…

MMARR: tell me about the injury a little bit, tell me what exactly happened?

Javier: The very first jab I threw, I twist off of my back leg, my left leg, and I landed on my leg. So as soon as I landed, I slipped on something. I mis-stepped, I caught my foot and my knee popped. You know, my knee pops sometimes, I mean it is normal, it is natural. I noticed I was in a little bit of pain, and I was like oh that is kinda weird. The very next combination I threw that is when I just fell down.

MMARR: Do you think that is was in part because of the King of the Cage mat? The King of the Cage mat is a wrestling mat it is different then some of the other mats around the world. Do you think that it had any part to play? or did it just happened?

Javier: I mean I like wrestling mats, you know personally I like wrestling mats, but when water gets on wrestling mats, especially when you are barefooted it is very, very slippery. I talked to Bud about it too, Bud Brutsman, and I told him I said “Hey dude you guys better consider going to a canvas mat because that mat gets too slippery”.

MMARR: Well you remember KOTC “Wet and Wild” (The outdoor cage was rained on and it was wet and slippery in the cage while the fights were taking place), I mean that was crazy, I can’t imagine fighting under the conditions that those guys fought in.

Javier: I said I would never fight under those conditions because you can blow out your knee too easily.

MMARR: Was that the exact same knee that you blew out last time?

Javier: Yup. Same thing, but I spoke with my doctor and I talked to him about the surgery I had before and he kind of told me, “Well I don’t know man, they shouldn’t of done that surgery on you, on an average person it might be fine, but not on an athlete. He said it wasn’t a very strong graft. That might be partially why it tore but it is kind of weird man, I ran on it, I wrestled on it, I did everything on it and I never had any pain, any buckling or any anything, and I threw one punch and I slipped and tore it. So It is kinda weird.

MMARR: Tell me about what they expect the recovery time will be for your legs.

Javier: Five months.

MMARR: Nine Months?

Javier: Five months.

MMARR: That is pretty fast actually, so you will be able to start training after about 5 months.

Javier: No I will be training at about 2 or 3 moths just rolling lightly but Full recover is supposed to be 6 months. Within five to six months I will be fighting again.

MMARR: You are going to be fighting after 6 months? That is amazing man.

Javier: Yeah that is what I said. The doctor says “Ahh yeah you are going to do it”. So I go “OK”

MMARR: You gotta listen to the doctor I guess.

Javier: Yeah man that is good, I was expecting a year, year and a half.

MMARR: That is what I was expecting. I talked to John Alessio a little while ago, that was right after the fight, and he was pretty depressed and feeling the way I was. A year is what I thought, because last time it took you about a year to come back didn’t it?

Javier: Yeah I fought at eight months last time but I still had some pain.

MMARR: Terry (Trebilcock) told me that your two fights before Perez you fought with no ACL is that true?

Javier: That is not true. At King of the Cage three, I tore my ACL 11 days prior to the show. It was buckling on me I didn’t know why, I didn’t know what was wrong with my knee, I just knew it hurt. I didn’t do pretty much anything for those two weeks. It was 11days. I pretty much didn’t do anything, I jumped rope I tried to stay in shape but I didn’t do much of anything. When I fought when I was warming up in the back at King of the Cage 3 it buckled on me again. I fought out there, I just wanted to get it done. The only reason that I didn’t pull out of that fight was because when I fought for Terry the very first time at Empire one, we had some disagreements and I was going to pull out of the fight a week before the fight. I told him no matter what, I was not going to pull out of that fight. If I hadn’t of said that, if I didn’t want to stick to my word, I was going to pull out of King of the Cage three because I was hurting at that show.

MMARR: (In the Alberto Crane fight) When you came in to your corner after the first round was over, You said something to Romie, (Romie Aram his corner-man), What did you actually say to Romie?

Javier: I just told him “My knee is gone” he goes “What do you mean gone?” I tore my knee again dude. He goes “The same thing?” I go the same thing. “Are you sure?” I am like, I am positive… Let me clarify what I said a minute ago, when I fought at King of the Cage 3 I fought hurt, and I was hurting really bad. That is the only time I ever fought with no ACL, I didn’t really know what it was. My next fight was already after the surgery, and I fought Ferrel Frisby which was 8 months later, 9 months later no it was closer to almost a year later. Then I fought Phillip Perez and I fought..

MMARR: That was over a year ago, you fought Antonio Emay April 15th 2000 and you fought Ferrell Frisby on June 23 2001.

Javier: Yes, that was the time difference in between my fights, I didn’t have any other fights in between there I didn’t do anything in between there. So that is not two times I fought one time and I didn’t want to do it. The only reason I did it was because I told him I was going to keep my word. That is the only reason I did it. I was hurting on that show, I was hurting really bad.

MMARR: Speaking of hurting really bad getting back to when you were talking with Romie, was there any thought in your mind like “Hey, I just tore my ACL in the first round, I am not going into the second round?”

Javier: Nope, Not at all.

MMARR: Not even for one second?

Javier: It didn’t even… Somebody asked me after the fight “Why would you go out after the first round” Well I didn’t even think about it. The only think I was thinking in between rounds was how I was going to win the next round, what I was going to do to win the next round. That was all I was thinking.

MMARR: So you think that Romie should have let you go out? Would you have been upset at Romie, if maybe he would have thrown in the white towel?

Javier: He knows better then to do that. We have already had that discussion before.

MMARR: Could you blame him if he did?